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Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.01 10:31:00 - [1] To be honest... I am more hurt that carrier bugs are still existant than a stupid worthless bonus. Get over it its not like it makes a difference. Just having a carrier in the system is better than nothing right now since they came pre-nerfed and pre-bugged. It is the sexiest looking ship in the game next the the hel. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.01 11:01:00 - [2] Originally by: Aloysius Knight Originally by: Kaylana Syi To be honest... I am more hurt that carrier bugs are still existant than a stupid worthless bonus. Get over it its not like it makes a difference. Just having a carrier in the system is better than nothing right now since they came pre-nerfed and pre-bugged. It is the sexiest looking ship in the game next the the hel. BEEEGOONNNEEE TROLL!!! why don't you try countering with some logic instead of trolling and flaming your own thread? Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.01 11:02:00 - [3] Originally by: Nafri the best suggestion yet: reduce fuel need for jumping, making the minmatar a logistic monster That would make me a happy panda Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.08 01:20:00 - [4] Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight but who wants to train for a carrier only to spend their lifes reping others thats no fun at all. I would/amand i'll like it too. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.08 05:42:00 - [5] Originally by: Aloysius Knight well it would be nice get a dev reply for this, but we all know they don't give a ** about it I highly doubt that. We don't know what they are doing atm except working on code and business infrastructure to keep EVE's future alive. But... lets just stop what they are doing to get one ship 10-20 people in EVE fly fixed.... right. Originally by:** "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.11 09:28:00 - [6] I say make it 7.5% to Shield Boost efficiency per level and damage -OR- tracking to its racial fighters. That would make it very well suited as what it is intended for... All out war. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.11 12:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Aloysius Knight Originally by: Kaylana Syi I say make it 7.5% to Shield Boost efficiency per level and damage -OR- tracking to its racial fighters. That would make it very well suited as what it is intended for... All out war. ahem thats 7.5% to shield boost AND armour rep effieciency, some of us armour tank our carriers ahem... no. Train tactical shield man. to 5 like all the rest of us. I will armor tank a Naglfar and shield tank a Nidhoggur. You should be used to dual skilling by now Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.11 12:40:00 - [8] Originally by: Aloysius Knight i mean amarr fighters on a minmatar carrier? yeah ** the whole backstory Me thinks you have a gross neglect of the ongoing story of EVE. There is a vast thing called 'open market' that is established that can inject itself into the 'history' of EVE. Your lack of imagination is the only thing ing on the backstory. If pilots of Matar want to buy amarr ships they should do so. However, I do agree that ship bonus should not step on the storylines. Originally by:** "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.11 13:38:00 - [9] Originally by: SIGMA KAPPA I cant believe the devs are so quiet on this glaring imbalance. In fact, the general amount of effort put into balance in this game is pathetic - we got dozens of different ships, weapons, modules, yet we usually see only two or three balance related fixes per patch... Who are you to say the effort is pathetic? Have you played the other MMOs recently? EVE is the most balanced game on the market and their development cycle is on par with any other MMO out there. Not only that... but player skill comes down to a lot of things in EVE. Ever have a Muninn owned by a SAC ? It can be done if the right person is at the helm. Ever have a vaga owned by a zealot? You'd think with the res stats on matari HACs would be unkillable by Amarr HACs but... if the right hands it can be done. And next time... post with your main if you wanna make stupid comments about the development cycle of EVE. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.11 15:27:00 - [10] I have played WoW, recently got rid of my 60 rouge. I have an active SWG subscription. I have 2 active City of Heroes/Villains subscriptions as well as 3 very active EVE accounts. I know a lot about how to gague changes in MMOs. I don't need to read patch notes to know what is going on in their minds. I know the DEVs are working becuase that is what they get paid to do. You want to talk about imbalance... look at WoW and City of Heroes. You want to look at the lack of foresight into game mechanics... look at SWG. If you want to talk about constant tweaks then I think you are in the wrong game. When something is not working as intended it gets looked at once it is brought to the attention of the DEVs. Their lack of response imho means that they don't want to address us until they have something to say that will be constructive and thought out. Look at it this way... Since EON issue 1 the capital ships have been in the lime light. They aren't broke. They work as intended, with initial nerfs. We don't play as intended. We make our case to the DEVs to meet us half way in a logical manor. A lot of the posts on carriers have been really just rants about how they aren't what the ranting pilot expected. They made an assumption on how it was to be used and the one they want doesn't work as planned and they can't be bothered to reshape the field of combat to the intended ship role so they whine here. If you want to get down to brass... there is nothing wrong with the Nidhoggur's bonus. There is only the problem with those who want to use it the way other pilots can use the other races. There are really good ideas in this thread on how to make them all perform similar, yet distinctly different. Implying the DEVs don't care and pointing to their lack of response is impatience in it's full form. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do

Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.13 17:38:00 - [11] Originally by: Scalor Valentis Oh, and as i mentioned before, even if nidhoggur repairs 33% faster it still useless due to oh so many limitations. possibly but then again... are you trying to fit a square peg in a round peg hole? Just once will morons on this forum think about other people than the status quo? Just seems to me that people want to Zerg with carriers. Shenanigans to the lot of you. Other people do play this game other than the blobbing lemmings. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.15 11:40:00 - [12] Originally by: Scalor Valentis Originally by: Aloysius Knight yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed yea, when 80% of eve carrier pilots will be flying thanathos. Also, all sofar manufacored motherships are Nyxes... i wonder why Let's all pull numbers out of our arse that are so hypothetical thy make baby jeebus cry. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.15 21:28:00 - [13] Originally by: Scalor Valentis Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 15/04/2006 13:41:22 Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Scalor Valentis Originally by: Aloysius Knight yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed Now begone, troll. Its easy to call someone a troll who is just trying to play devils advocate for people who might not agree with the way you are describing combat in EVE. What is said here is not the full picture yet you paint it like it is. So stfu and stop throwing names at people or you are the troll that can emote die m'kay? Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.15 21:37:00 - [14] Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 15/04/2006 21:42:03 Originally by: Pesadel0 Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Scalor Valentis Originally by: Aloysius Knight yeah would be nice, but no cares anyway maybe in 2 years we'll get it fixed yea, when 80% of eve carrier pilots will be flying thanathos. Also, all sofar manufacored motherships are Nyxes... i wonder why Let's all pull numbers out of our arse that are so hypothetical thy make baby jeebus cry. kay do you really think that our opinions about the minie carrier are that far off? Are you training for the minmatar carrier?And if soo for what advantage versus the other races ? I have a Nidhoggur. 25 days until I can fly it because I trained up dread skills first for a naglfar. Will never use it like you all seem to say it needs to be used. Am training my 2nd account for an Archon and will never use it like you all claim they need to be used. I don't think your oppinions are that far off in many cases, never said otherwise. I just don't think throwing out absolutes about EVE combat as well as hyperbolic future case scenarios isn't very productive when relaying ideas to the DEVs. Who is to say how the future holds, since obviosly not everyone will fly a Thanatos in a years time. Combat could easily change radically overnight and it is well on its way to another shift as it is. Sure, if you can get another damage bonus or logistics bonus, or even a Shield Bonus akin to the Cyclone on it then more power to you. But kicking the devs in the box while they are fixing the game, gearing up Kali the true RMR patch, fixing my typhoon, and getting the Chineese servers up to generate more real life ISK just because a ship has a broken or lackluster bonus, however you feel about it... its just stupid. Getting flamed and called a troll for tossing about a counter argument is pretty funny none the less. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.16 01:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Aloysius Knight Originally by: Kaylana Syi I have a Nidhoggur. 25 days until I can fly it because I trained up dread skills first for a naglfar. Will never use it like you all seem to say it needs to be used. Am training my 2nd account for an Archon and will never use it like you all claim they need to be used. I don't think your oppinions are that far off in many cases, never said otherwise. I just don't think throwing out absolutes about EVE combat as well as hyperbolic future case scenarios isn't very productive when relaying ideas to the DEVs. Who is to say how the future holds, since obviosly not everyone will fly a Thanatos in a years time. Combat could easily change radically overnight and it is well on its way to another shift as it is. Sure, if you can get another damage bonus or logistics bonus, or even a Shield Bonus akin to the Cyclone on it then more power to you. But kicking the devs in the box while they are fixing the game, gearing up Kali the true RMR patch, fixing my typhoon, and getting the Chineese servers up to generate more real life ISK just because a ship has a broken or lackluster bonus, however you feel about it... its just stupid. Getting flamed and called a troll for tossing about a counter argument is pretty funny none the less. so how about telling us how you would use it? enlighten us who know not the correct path There is no one correct path. Welcome to the world of EVE Online. Enjoy your stay now that you have the secret to the universe. And If I told you I'd have to kill you. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.16 01:48:00 - [16] Originally by: Scalor Valentis Originally by: Kaylana Syi I have a Nidhoggur. 25 days until I can fly it this is when i stopped reading. Now please come back in 2 months, and you will have something solid to back your "visions" of new and wonderful EVE with Monks and palladins. 25 days is less than 1 month and I am smart enough and been playing EVE enough to know how to use my ships before I step into them. It is a mobile POS despite the bugs and not much more. If you want to use it as a battleship that is your perogative but don't expect everyone to to swallow that pill. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.18 17:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Scalor Valentis Originally by: Juan Andalusian Minnie has the best bonus for how carriers are supposed to be used. No i don't mean from a safespot. please, present something to back the frak up your statements. If you feel its best bonus, while we have done some numbers and flyed the thing in action, dont make your statment anything else but flaimbait. What makes anything you say less frak then ours? Nothing... so quit refuting counter arguments and oppinions with your own absoultes and outlook of EVE. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.20 12:59:00 - [18] Originally by: Scalor Valentis Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Scalor Valentis Originally by: Juan Andalusian Minnie has the best bonus for how carriers are supposed to be used. No i don't mean from a safespot. please, present something to back the frak up your statements. If you feel its best bonus, while we have done some numbers and flyed the thing in action, dont make your statment anything else but flaimbait. What makes anything you say less frak then ours? Nothing... so quit refuting counter arguments and oppinions with your own absoultes and outlook of EVE. Because there is abaut every minmatar pilot par some trolls agree with me in here? There is no smoke without fire, right? Been a Minmatar Pilot happily since 2003. So don't kid yourself to think someone who has fought for our ships more than you could ever hope is just trolling for the sake of trolling. I am telling you that other people may play, may eventually play, and combat may change from how YOU play and the people that agree with you play. Your circle of blobs or wolfpacks doesn't == EVE Combat. That said, I have made it very clear I don't disagree with a bonus being changed. Just how you cry babies go about doing it. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do

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